Great question, I’ve been purchasing Civil War weapons for some time now and I’m always asked “how much is my civil war gun, knife, sword worth?” Well it seems these days many of us have an unrealistic impression as to what our CW items are worth.
Let me explain. First we need to differentiate between Union and Confederate pieces. Confederate pieces will always seek higher value then Union pieces unless the Union piece has provenance or was carried by someone of historical significance. Many newbie Civil War collectors want to buy a long rifle, carbine or maybe a sword to start their collection. So they go on the internet or to the next antique gun show and they buy the first gun or sword they see not understanding its true value.
Then you have the owner of Civil War weapons who may have inherited Civil War items from a relative or purchased a couple pieces a few years back, they over paid for the gun or sword and now they not only want to get their money back but they want to make 50% premium, sorry but it doesn’t work like that.
It’s my opinion that the best way of understanding value of Civil War weapons is to do your research. There are many reference books that have been published over the past 10 years that are an absolute must for all CW collectors. These books are written by the experts in the industry and many have 100’s of high quality photos that always come in handy, I will mention a few of these books at the end of this post.
So back to value, there are many unscrupulous people out there that will take advantage of buyers of CW items if you don’t do your homework. When I first started collecting CW guns and swords I would buy the first item that came along only to see the same item at the next gun show for a fraction of the price and in better condition. This happened a few times before the light went off in my head. I started becoming more disciplined, I purchased all the research books I could to make me a better consumer.
I would recommend to all reading this post “DO NOT BUY CIVIL WAR GUNS OR SWORDS FROM ONLINE AUCTIONS” you have no recourse if the item doesn’t meet your expectations. It’s tricky when you purchase a gun/sword from an auction because of the percentage the auction house adds on after the auction is closed, and that amount is usually 15 to 20% on top of the winning bid.
You’re better off buying your CW items from the major dealers in the industry. I found that you can generally negoicate price with the prominate CW dealers and they usually have a 3 to 7 day buy back if you’re not happy with the piece. They want you to keep coming back so they’re going to treat you like a client rather than someone they won’t see again.
Many of the dealers have large inventories, since there always buying large collections of weapons and they need to turn over there inventory, so there willing to sell items at fair market value (sometimes even below) especially Union pieces. Let’s face it the Union made millions of weapons during the CW and there’s no shortage of those pieces. On the other hand the Confederate weapons that are a horse of another color. All Confederate weapons are considered rare, some more than others but never the less all Southern weapons are rare.
I’ve gotten to know some of the major Civil War dealers over the past few years and I can generally buy items well below market value because I pay my bills and I keep coming back time after time. Most of the weapons I buy these days are Confederate. I’ve purchased a number of Bowie Knives, Pikes, Carbines, Long Rifles and just about anything else that whistles Dixie. I have a nice collection of Richmond Virginia Long Rifles, short rifles and carbines and I didn’t pay more than $6500.00 for any of them, well below market value and yes I bought them from dealers, one of the big mistakes I made is I bought an 1863 Richmond Carbine from an online auction for $4600.00 only to receive it and find the barrel had been cut down. I had no recourse in returning the Richmond to the online auction so I ate the loss. That was a big loss to eat. DO NOT BUY FROM ONLINE AUCTIONS!!!!!!
So again I ask what is my Civil War weapon worth? I guess what someone is willing to pay for it.
If you have a Civil War weapon that you want to sell or just want to understand its value I can help. Email me at firstname.lastname@example.org and I will get back to you ASAP. If I can’t help you I may know someone who can.
If you have any Confederate weapons that you want to sell, I am always interested.
1.Confederate Bowie Knifes, By Jack Melton, Josh Phillips, John Sexton
2.Collecting the Confederacy, By Shannon Pritchard
3.Civil War Collectibles, By Russell E. Lewis
4.Civil War Firearms, By John F. Graf
5.Flayderman’s Guide to Antique American Firearms, By Norm Flayderman
6.The Civil War Collector’s Price Guide, By Stephen Sylvia
I have a 1862 Richmond rifle that my great Uncle brought back from Gettysburg shortly after the battle. It is in very good condition and my uncle used it for deer hunting during muzzleloader season occasionally. He had it for over fifty years and left it to me when he passed on. Just curious as to what it is really worth…
I have a1863 remington eagle and want to know the value. Can you help?
I have a 1865 B.Buell 50 cal shotgun.with a damaged hammer.What is it worth and where can I find any info. Regarding same. Thank you
have a 1862 TOWER .577 cal Rough shape
has crown to left of hammer 1862 to right of hammer all on RS. sideplate
left side plate Upside down graphis 25 graphic 25 np
missing center brass screw Left side
missing center barrel band
trying to determine VALUE
Hello, we have a Civil War Rifle we would like to have an estimate of value on (we would like to sell it), however, we have taken it to multiple places and no one can value it because they are not familiar with it and cannot find the manufacturer in their reference books. It is a Belgium manufacturer (P.J. Malherbe), the make is a Saxon (confirmed) and is either an 1851 or 1856). According to the limited research we have done, it seems to be a pretty rare item. The few people who have looked at it have confirmed that it is in very good condition and all of the parts are original. To make matters even better, it looks to be that the serial # is 5 and we have the original ramrod (also numbered with the 5). Is this an item you are familiar with and can give us an estimate of value on? If so, I can send detailed pictures.
Thank you, so much!!
Kay, please provide photos of rifle, lock plate, and any markings on the stock and barrel. Please use high resolution photos if possible. If I can’t help you I will put you in touch with someone who can.
Sincerely, Gene West
And here is the last half. We appreciate the help. We have had this gun in our family forever and just recently decided to get it valued to see if it was worth selling….we never though it would be this hard to get a value on it! Lol! We took it to 3 gun shops in Reno, NV and no one could tell us anything, so we are keeping are fingers crossed this time!
If you go to the link above you will learn a bit about the weapon you have. It is a Saxon 1851 – 1857, P.J. Malherbe & Cie .58 caliber rifle. It was imported from Belgium at the beginning of the war and apparently issued to troops from Illinois.
As for the value, I’m not familiar enough with this weapon to give you a honest valuation. But Tim Prince from College Hill Arsenal would be the one to do so. He is the leading expert for American Civil War Imports. Send him an email about your rifle and I’m certain he will help, he would also be the dealer who could sell it for best price.
Hope this helps, good luck with the rifle, Gene
I was reading the info on your website and wondering if might be able to help me. I have a civil war rifle which my grandfather found on a construction site over fifty years ago under the foundation of an old building which was being demolished in Newark NJ where I believe soldiers where stationed. I did some research of the area to connect the rifle to soldiers occupying that area. The rifle is in the condition youigjt expect after being buried Al those years, but appears in tact except a piece of trigger guard missing. It has a date on it of 1848 I believe and a I believe a soldier’s name on it. If you can help I can email you a picture of it. Thank you and looking forward to hearing from you. Alex
Alex, provide high resolution photos and I will do my best to help with any and all questions.
I have a 3 band Spencer rifle, Spencer made. The strange thing is, it is in 56-46 and has a Springfield marked barrel. I know the 56-46 was a Springfield invention for the carbine. It has a wide cartridge guide, and the breech block has holes in it. It also has a Lane extractor. I have seen photos of a prototype carbine that has this cartridge guide. But I can’t find anything for a three band rifle. But if you wanted to test a carbine with the cartridge, why not a rifle.
The rifle has a 3/4 stamped on the butt. I first thought some type of rack number. I pulled the fore wood to check the witness mark, and found a 3 stamped on the barrel and front of the action. So is this number 3 of 4 ??
Is it a prototype or a trials rifle. I can supply more info if required.
Chip, here’s a link that mentions the 56/46 Spencer 3 band sporting rifle….don’t know much else about this version. Hope this helps . http://www.leverguns.com/articles/blancard/spencer.htm
Hi, I found you online and I’m not sure if you still do this but I thought I would take a chance. My dad gave me this and said it was from civil war and I have no idea what the name is and how much it is worth. Wondering if you could help me out. Thank you
My question is I have a revolver with virtually zero markings on it, or at least I cant find any. I am an amateur for sure. Can you help me with this old gun!?
Michael, revolvers are really not my expertise but my gut tells me it’s an Italian import with some age to it…..many Italian imports don’t have serial numbers and it my be that at one time or another someone removed the made in “Italy” stamping……sorry I couldn’t be more helpful.
The belt buckle there was only one found in Cold harbor. Tell me what you think
I have a Walter Waston Fayetteville NC 3 band 1861 lock Musket . I will sell open for offers. Will send pics if interested. Richard
To start with I only have one civil war era gun, it is a Frank Wesson two trigger carbine. That is about all I know about this gun. I have googled and also read what I could find about these rifles. I thought it might be an early prototype or something. The serial number is 16, it is found on the barrel also on the receiver and the bottom of the trigger guard. The carbine does not have the slotted link to prevent opening too far and no ejector. The breech is not split for the hammer firing pin, where the firing pin would be there is a nipple and the hammer looks like it belongs on a percussion gun. I would like to know some history or what the gun may have been used for. I attached some pics hoping it would help. I would also be willing to ship the gun to someone to ID it.
Thanks For any help,
I found your name on the internet. The rifle in these pictures has been in my family for years. I’ve had it now for several years and was wondering if you can give me any background information on it and perhaps tell be an estimated value of its worth.
I recently was given an old Civil War era musket rifle, and what appears to be a horn carved powder flask. I don’t know much about them, but it appears to be the same as this one:
“1864” is engraved, as well as “WM Muir & Co. Windsor Locks. CT.” On the top of the butt place “US” is engraved as well.
I will attach several photos. What would you estimate the value at? Would you be interested in purchasing it?
Email me back with any further questions at Krismuhly@gmail.com
Kris, unfortunately you muzzle loader isn’t in very good condition, however if it’s a complete weapon with all its parts and no repairs to the stock it’s worth about $850 at best…..below is an attachment from the “Flaydermans Guide to Antique American Firearms” which is the best guide for understanding values.
You can see for yourself what full retail value would be ($850.00) if gun is in good condition. It’s my opinion based on your photos your weapon is in less then good condition……but that’s just my opinion.
Hope this helps you understand value. I wouldn’t have an interest in buying your Musket.
Regards, Gene West
Good evening Eugene,
I’ve enjoyed looking at your site and all the information you’re sharing on CS rifles and muskets.
I have in my possession a very early Virginia rifle. That was altered for Confederate use. It’s a Virginia Manufactory Rifle Type 2, dated 1821, that was one of roughly 250-360 altered by Merrill of Baltimore (whom was much more famous for his Merrill carbines than conversions) in early 1861 when Richmond was trying to convert flintlocks to percussion before the war kicked off. Most were issued from June through November of 1861 to Virginia units, which can be identified.
The lock mechanism work along with the patch box/spring, and the barrel still has rifling present in .45 or .46 caliber. I can’t remember which one offhand. I have only heard of one other of this type of alteration sell (Thayer Americana bought in 2005 and then sold in 2007 at Little John’s Auction House), and another example appears on page 487-490 in Madaus and Murphy’s CS Rifles and Muskets. The Virginia Historical Society does not contain one in their immense collection of Virginia Manufactory, which is pretty surprising in all the years that Giles Cromwell spent researching and collecting Virginia Manufactory.
Anyhow, I am looking to sell the rifle, and was wondering if you’d be interested in the piece before i went through James Julia this Monday.
I read your article in and wondered if you can assist us.
The local historian has eight rifled muskets which appear to have been manufactured during the Civil War. The collection is housed in our public library and the village administration wishes to insure them for the appropriate amount.
I noted that you added a bibliography to your article, but those books are not immediately available!
This is the inventory of the eight rifled muskets in the Hamilton Museum:
One US “Whitney-ville” rifled musket, bore is 0.685/0.69, s/n 5723, dated 1863.
Accompanied by a single-hook leather sling and cutlass-like bayonet.
Percussion cap ignition and 1,000 yard marksman’s or sniper’s sight.
Seven each rifled muskets, bored 0.69/0.70, percussion cap ignition. All have sniper’s sights, marked to 800 meters maximum and there are five triangular bayonets, some with scabbards.
One is marked so:
On the right side lock plate: A & CH. DE LONEUX
Left side of barrel is marked, including Belgian proof mark: Within an oval, the letters: L G
ELG stands for “Epreuve de Liege” or proof of Liege. Perhaps the star is a crown? *
The first Belgium proof mark was ELG in oval (no crown)
which came out around 1810.
One is marked so:
On the right side lock plate, in script: M.re R.le
de St Etienne
This is the abbreviation for the French arsenal at Saint Etienne: Manufacture de Armes de St. Etienne. This arsenal was active from about the time of our Revolutionary War until the present day.
Left side of barrel is marked, including the Belgian proof mark.
Two are marked on the right side lock plate: TANNER & CIE and bear the proof mark.
Three have no visible identification marks, except for the proof mark and a crowned CD on the top strap of the butt plate and an illegible stamp on the barrel flat.
As an interested Navy veteran of Vietnam, they have asked me to help. If necessary, I can provide images of the weapons, but I do not have them at present. Any assistance you can provide — even a poke in the correct direction! — would be a great help.
LCdr, CEC, USNR-Ret
Adjutant, Lloyd V. Evans Post 375
The American Legion
John, if you could provide quality images (photos) of the weapons in question I will do my best to help with all questions you may have. Which state and city are you in?
Thank you, Gene!
We are in Hamilton, New York. I found my photos, but I think I had better take some again. These are of the one Whitney-ville rifled musket.
John , please see the attachment I’ve enclosed to better understand value of weapon. It was unclear whether you have a Whitney 1861 Navy Percussion Rifle or a Whitney US Contract 1861 Rifle Musket……so I’ve enclosed information on both.
If yours looks like the photo then you have the Navy Rifle, however if yours has 3 barrel bands then it’s the Contract Rifle……..
Of course condition is everything when it comes to value and you haven’t provided enough images for me to understand it’s condition…..at the bottom of each attachment you will see values based on condition. Hope this helps.
Have a old 36 Cal Navy Made Powder Pistol .Have mold to make bullets ,caps,and tools and case…Don’t know much about it…I believe it was made in1845.I have pics.Thanks…I would like to sell.
Vicki, please forward good quality photos of revolver….close ups of all markings as well….
Regards, Gene West
Vicki, your Revolver appears to be a modern version of a Colt Revolver…..probably worth about $150.00
Hello I am sending you some pictures of what I believe are a rifle from the Civil War it’s a musket tune it’s stamped see you Chapman also has the number 14 on it and that is stamped in 2 places was wondering if you could help me out with that as far as is it something worth anything any help would be greatly appreciated thank you for any help.
Ugly, worn, damaged.Lock functions perfectly.Slight barrel bend.Barrel full length.Missing ramrod and two barrel bands.
Mre Rle De Mutzig engraved on lock.other proofs and cartouches on various parts.All original except for the very old bailing wire repair.
Acquired in a trade.Reputed to have come from a barn stairwell in Baton Rouge, La before demolition.Any Interest?I’m asking $300 + shipping
John, sorry but I wouldn’t have any interest in your weapon….. buts thanks for asking.
I have a gun that I would consider selling- can you advise me on that?
Kesha, unfortunately I wouldn’t be interested in the revolver………a lot of the information that is quoted about its Confederate history (provenance) is hearsay……these days I only purchase weapons with factual provenance…….sorry.
Regards, Gene West
Thank you for looking at the gun. We do have copies of articles that were written from this man and also copies of his discharge papers from Moseby but nothing more than that. Can you tell me if you agree with the appraisal?
I don’t have a negative opinion of the appraisal, I can say Mr. XXXXX OF XXXXX XXXXXX is highly respected and I trust him…….the problem I see with your revolver is that you cannot absolutely prove it was carried by the Confederate soldier…….it’s hearsay and I don’t purchase weapons for that price on word of mouth……..to risky of an opportunity……hope you understand.
Regards, Gene West
I have a Spencer 1860 also noticed 1865 is model no. it is in pretty good shape to be that old I would sell it if I could get a decent price for it no.16414 . I also have a us springfield 1873 what kind of prices you think
My name is Drake Davidson im from Vicksburg,Ms and I was wantingto know how much my civil war 62 Cal long rifle is worth?
Drake, unfortunately the image you provided is not so clear……I would need more photos…..some close up some not of the weapon……if you could provide better images of the weapon I will do my best in helping with estimation…..
Regards, Gene West
Hello, we meaning, my wife & I would like to sell this piece. I will attach photo and back of frame. Only problem is I have never been able to open it up to look at the pistol from all angles…please let us know anything that might be helpful to us. Thank you,
John & Melanie Malfe
Below please find 2 links associated with the value of your revolver…..unfortunately is doesn’t have a lot of value…..your weapon is Belgium made and at the outbreak of the War Between The States these were considered obsolete and therefore not carried by men of the Blue & Gray.
Regards, Gene West
Good morning, Gene,
I came across your website at civilwararsenal.com thanks to a google search to determine the value of a civil war rifle given to me by my grandfather. I wondered if you could help?
I’ve included some pictures, but here are the details imprinted on the rifle:
• Ballards Patent, Nov. 5 1861
• Ball & Williams, Worcester Mass.
• Merwin & Bray Agts, New York
The number “8158” is imprinted twice; once on the barrel, and another time a couple centimeters over near the hammer.
My grandfather had attached a note indicating he thought it was a .44 or .45 caliber with about a 7/16 bore—I have no idea how accurate that is. The rifle itself is in good condition; a small crack in the stock and some small nicks and scrapes.
Would you be able to help me understand the approx. value of this rifle? Or point me towards other resources that might help?
Good morning Matt, I’ve included images out below of some books of the details you’ve asked for…..seems you have a Ballard Rifle that was issued to Kentucky Militia, I can’t really tell by the photo you sent but I think your serial number range makes it a 44 rimfire delivered to the state of Kentucky April 5th 1864, 30″ barrel with short Carbine type forestock. Serial # range 7100-8500.
Hope this helps. Regards, Gene West
Dear Mr West,
I have my great grandfather’s muzzle loading percussion cap rifle and would like to sell it, but cannot find any manufacturer’s information on it. The only engraving is a hand engraved number on one of the brass stock plates. I know that he had it in 1870, but don’t know if it was new or old at that time. He lived in Georgia, just a few miles south of Chattanooga, Tn.
I also have the complete leather shot bag with bullet mold , caps, patches and lead for bullets. I have molded bullets and fired it myself, but 70+ years ago.The barrel is octagonal and I am guessing that it is approximately 40 caliber. The ramrod is a hand made replacement and I suspect the stock is also. The barrel is 42” long and the rifle weighs just over ten pounds.
My question is: Do you think it has enough value to justify the effort of selling it?
Thank you so much for your help,
Good evening, Gene,
This is WONDERFUL information—THANK YOU for taking the time to research and respond…it’s greatly appreciated!
So it appears this particular rifle would be worth between $850-2500. What steps would you recommend I take for selling it?
Merry Christmas—and thank you again!
Well that’s a good question Matt……hmmmmmmm
Probably the best way to sell it is at http://www.gunbroker.com , this would allow you to set the price and have people bid on it……or you and do a penny auction guaranteeing the weapon will sell…..if you did the penny auction the weapon will sell what Peale are willing to pay….whatever that price may be..
It’s not in the best condition so I would think it would sell for Between $600 and $1000, just a guess on my part.
Another option is http://www.lodgewoodmfg.com, they sold weapons for me in the past…..they take the weapon on consignment and attempt to sell it at your asking price….there a husband and wife run small business and there very honest……they have many reenactors and collectors that browse there website daily….
Hope this helps, Merry Christmas and best regards, Gene
Just looking for some information on a Harpers Ferry flintlock rifle I possess, including any idea of its history and value. Please let me know if you can help!
Frank, it’s hard to tell with just images, especially since the markings on the Lock Plate appear gone with age but I think what you have is a ” Model 1816 Flintlock Musket Type ll, a.k.a. National Armory Brown. Below see the attachment for more details. Hope this helps.
Regards, Gene West
I have a Springfield model 1884 trap door with bayonet in excellent condition. If I send you pictures will you give me a value of the rifle.
Bill , forward images of the rifle and I will give you values.
Attached are pictures of the rifle, serial # 345582.
Good evening sir,
I would like to see if you know about the gun I was given by my grandmother.
I believe it’s a Colt from 1864 ish? I can send pics.
Eric, please forward quality images of the revolver, including serial numbers and I will do my best with valuations…
Regards, Gene West
Eric, what you have is Colt Model 1849 Pocket Revolver……production ran from 1850 thru 1873 with about 340,000 of them made in total…..as you can see from the attachment I’ve included at the bottom of the page Colt was up to serial # 280,000 by the end f the Civil War. I can’t tell by your photos if the cylinder is 5 or 6 shot and I can’t tell how long your barrel is…..but you can measure it and with the information below you should be able to figure everything else out.
Hope this helps, Gene
Hello Gene, i found you blog online with your email. I would greatly appreciate it if you could give me your expert opinion on this “Civil War used” flintlock pistol. Especially how much it might be valued at it it was actually used in the Civil War.
Thank you kindly for your time.
Scott, you will need to provide more accurate images of the weapon in question, especially of any markings that may appear on it……I highly doubt this weapon was used during the War Between The States. By 1861 most flintlock weapons were considered obsolete, I not suggesting that some were not used in the very early stages of the war, particularly in the South……but it’s unlikely that your weapon was unless there’s provenance to prove so.
All that said it may still be very collectible. I’m not certain if it’s American or European…..markers marks and proof marks will determine that……so provide more photos and I will do my best to help with any and all questions you have.
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On Jan 2, 2018, at 3:46 AM, Scott Burn
Hello Gene, i found you blog online with your email. I would greatly appreciate it if you could give me your expert opinion on this “Civil War used” flintlock pistol. Especially how much it might be valued at it it was actually used in the Civil War.
Thank you kindly for your time.
I have a Butterfield which I do not know the value one and I was looking to sell it’s not in bad condition but it is missing a few pieces
Philip, your revolver is rare…..rather then me explain the details I’ve included an attachment below with the details…..you must take into account that your revolver is missing some parts.
Regards Gene West
thank you for your quick response I kind of figured that it’d be hard to give a price since it is missing the front sight lower retainer piece that holds the lever in place underneath the front of the barrel it has a broken hand that rotates the cylinder the trigger action does work I most likely thought it would be something for display 0r for someone who is interested in needed parts all the serial numbers match except for the cylinder my number is 471 and the cylinder is 551. It took me awhile to find close up pictures of the pieces that are missing and broken but I have gotten them and I’m having an old gunsmith make then for me I’m not a real collector of Civil War antiques and if you know anybody that may be interested in the antique repair or unrepaired forward him my email please I’m not looking to make a killing on it just fair to everyone and thanks again for your help if you need any pics I have close-ups of it broken down
I have a musket that belonged to my father. It was on his fireplace for years in North Carolina. It was passed down through the family, I am sure, as he had descendants that served in the Confederate army. It has a powder horn attached. I am researching the worth. If I email a picture to you, could you help?
Susan, send quality images of the Musket……include Lock Plate, barrel, stock, and any markings visible……I’ll do my best to help with values.
Dear Mr. West,
I am requesting an estimate for a Civil War era double barrell musket. It was given to me by my grandfather, John Daniel Jones b.1907 – d. 1966 in Edgecombe County, NC. It belonged to his great grandfather Calvin Jones b. 1828- d.1896. The story in the family is that it belonged to one of his brothers who may have served in the Edgecombe Guards. I researched this and found that there were an Andrew Jones and an Edwin Jones listed as soldiers in the unit. The guards did serve some time with Lee and the Army of Northern Virginia. If you examine the photos you will find that the stock is fractured. The story being that having exhausted both barrells the soldier wielded it as a club and broke the stock on an opposing soldier in hand to hand combat.I could not find the name of a gunmaker anywhere on the piece, although there is decorative engraving. Please see the photos attached
Your time and attention to this matter is very much appreciated.
It’s hard to put a value on the Shotgun you have, most collectors want provenance on the weapons they purchase especially if there paying large sums of money. Your weapon comes with verbal provenance which is not as credible as other types of provenance.
Shotguns were used by many troops in the “War of Rebellion” especially Confederate Calvary. The shotguns that collectors desire are ones that have bayonet lugs on the side of the barrel near the muzzle. There would be no reason for a hunter to have a bayonet attached to there shotgun so it’s assumed by all collectors that shotguns with a lug on the barrel would be ones used for the purpose of war.
So with all that said, your weapon is worth what someone is willing to pay……for a quick reference there is about 4 shotguns being offered at http://www.gunbrokers.com from the period of the Civil War, there all being offered between $600 to $2000 and there’s no bids on them……I’m certain if they had bayonet lugs on them the bids would be coming fast and furious.
I know I didn’t really answer your question and I’m sorry for that, but sometimes it’s not as easy as it may appear. I hope you understand.
With Kind Regards, Gene West
Thank you very much for your reply. I believe your assessment to be on the money. I will have to do more research on the Edgecombe Guards which was part of the 1st Regiment North Carolina infantry which fought in The Battle of Bethel (Va) 10 June 1861. I wish I could find a photo of Andrew or Edwin Jones with their firearms then I would really have the real thing! I wonder if such a thing exists. Also, curious as to who could have manufactured this piece, and why they would not have stamped their company name on it. It’s a real mystery.
Thanks for your insight, very insightful and interesting.
I have this rifle. All original..great shape..five gunsmith s all said they would fire this weapon now. Because it’s in great condition. It has the original wood rod.it has a the long barrel scope and it still sites in. It is a very heavy gun. I have done some research. I know it’s one of a bout 70 some guns made way back in 1860s(?).all info would be appreciated. Plus the value from private collect toons to museum s. Thank you John
John, please provide quality images of the weapon…….Lock Plate, barrel, scope, stock and any markings and I will do my best in helping with any information you require.
Regards, Gene West
Hi I researched appraisers online and found you. I inherited two rifles from my late husband. I want to get an appraisal.
I have attached photos. I don’t know if that will help
Amy, the one weapon serial #11967 is a Burnside Carbine, I believe it to be the 5th Model or the Standard model. These were sold to the US Government during the “War Between The States”. Approximately 43,000 of them were purchased making them pretty common…..it’s value is between $1000 – 1200 based on its condition, which looks to be in “Good Condition”…..Values are rated Good, Fine and Excellent…..obviously if it were in better condition it would be worth more.
The other weapon you have is a Flintlock which is pre Civil War and a bit out of my wheel house but I will research and get back to you on my findings.
Kind Regards, Gene
I found your informative article online. Thank you! I have two Civil War rifles and one pistol that my father collected.
Any chance you can give me your perspective on the value if I sent you some photos? I was going to include them in
an estate sale, but I do not know what they are worth.
We live in VA, so Civil War memorabilia is somewhat popular here…
Thanks so much in advance!!
Christina, please provide quality images of the weapons…..lock plates, stocks, barrels and any markings. I will do my best to answer any questions you have.
Regards, Gene West
The revolver you have is a Colt, “Standard Round Cylinder Army” you only show one side of the revolver in the images you provided so I can’t tell if there’s a U.S. Government cartouche on the grip. This would increase the value of the weapon a bit. If no cartouche exist it would be considered a “Civilian Model Round Cylinder Army”. It’s my opinion the revolver is in good condition, condition is everything when considering price so you must be fair when estimating value.
The Savage musket you own is in Very good condition, I would estimate its value in the range of $1500 -$2000.
Below find attachment to help better understand values….both weapons are nice CW pieces.
Regards, Gene West
Below are pictures and a list of guns. There is one missing from the list and that is a Colt Navy (Round Barrell 1861) 36 Cal. 6 shot #1357. Any information and value would be great.
Not certain where to start…….the collection of pistols you have is extensive…..it’s extremely hard to tell with just photos and the number of pistols in your collection. I would need hours if not days possibly weeks to research.
The one pistol that caught my eye is the Lemat, which is a Southern Import during the War Between the States, it’s a very nice piece.
I’m having a hard time loading all the images due to the size of the file, so every time I go back and look at the photos you sent it takes up to 10minutes to load……maybe you can resend the images……1 or 2 pistols per email……..
Aside from values what other information are you looking for?
Are you looking to sell any or all the collection?
Best Regards, Gene West
I have a pistol from the Civil War that was awarded to someone of significance at the time. I cannot seem to figure out who the individual was. My main question is how much could this revolver be worth? Im pretty sure its a Smith and Wesson Model 1, 2nd issue.
David, you’ll have to provide quality images of revolver as well as serial number and any other markings……it’s the only way to know value.
I found information on Major Alexander McDonald Lyon, see below attachment.
I believe your model revolver is a “Smith & Wesson No. 1 Second Issue Revolver”, however you didn’t provide a complete profile image of it for me examine….but based on what I do see I believe my opinion is correct.
Normally these revolvers wouldn’t be worth much but yours has provenance associated with it. Unfortunately Major Lyon was not a significant player during the “War Between The States”……for instance if it were a revolver carried by a Union officer who was involved in major campaigns, battles or killed in action it could be worth $5000 +, but because Major Lyon was only a Paymaster and probably never fired a shoot in anger and was behind the lines most if not all the time it hurts the value of the weapon…….I’d say it’s worth between $2000-3000. If it were Confederate it could be worth $10,000+.
He was from Erie Pennsylvania…….some collectors might be more willing to pay up for the revolver if they collect Union weapons from Pennsylvania, more specifically from the Erie area…….I hope I answered all you questions, if you have others feel free to ask.
Kind Regards, Gene
I read your article online from several years back and didn’t know if you would still offer information. I’m cleaning out my grandfather’s house and I’ve heard stories that his dad road in the Calvary in the Civil War. I just found this gun and I’m curious to know more information about it. Anything you can provide would be appreciated.
What you have is a late model Civil War Carbine, kinda rare based on the number manufactured and purchased throughout the war. Even though it’s a late war issue, it’s a early serial number (236)…….so it would have been one of the first Ballard’s issued.
It appears to be in pretty good shape.
Below is some information that you e requested.
Kind Regards, Gene
To whom it may concern,
I have read your online post about the value of Civil War Guns and thought I’d contact you.
My name is Lee Tighe and I live in Virginia Beach Virginia. I have an 1855 Colt 6 shot revolving percussion rifle I’m interested in selling and would like to know you are interested in obtaining it or preserving it. Additionally, I have three civil War pictures that are unidentified and wonder if you have the means to identify them.
I have been speaking with several parties who are interested in the gun/rifle. The gun was owned by Civil War Colonel James Duff, who commanded 33rd Regiment, Texas Cavalry (Duff’s Partisan Rangers), and affiliated with Arizona Rangers, Company A. His history is quite colorful if not brutal. Even though it appears to almost be commonplace during the Civil War. He was part of the confederates surrender when the war ended.
Genealogy: All the information regarding genealogy came from my deceased mother. Before her death, she informed me that Colonel James Duff’s grandson or great grandson gave the gun to my grandfather. It has been in my family as long as I can remember.
A friend who does civil war reenactments looked up its value in Flayderman’s guide manual that specializes in Civil War & Antique Guns (You are probably familiar with publication). As of about 5 years ago it said in perfect/fine condition, which it’s not, value would be around $11,000.. The serial number of the rife 947 is very legible and in four areas of the rifle. Additional markings are faded and difficult to read.
I was told it was in very good condition for its age. After doing some research, it appears the government purchased the first 1000 rifles. I understand there were only about 4000 of the 1855 Percussion rifles made. As I’m sure you are aware, I’m trying to get the highest price for the rifle. I have a gunsmith who wants to restore it to bring the highest value. However, I prefer not to do that at this time. It looks like most of the rifle is original.
Please let me know if you’re interested in purchasing this gun. If not, maybe you could forward this email to someone who is. Feel free to contact me anytime. My direct number is, Xxx xxx xxxx
Hi, Are you interested in any of these?
Please let me know if you are or if there is any value in the collection.
Unfortunately I wouldn’t be interested in your collection of weapons. These days I only buy military grade weapons and even though some of the weapons you have are from the time of the “War Of independence” they are not weapons that were made for the military.
Sorry I couldn’t help, maybe you should try http://www.gunbroker.com …….best of luck.
Regards, Gene West
Evening …I have a civil war rifle and I’m wondering it’s value and where I might find someone who may enjoy it more then myself.
Don, How much are you wanting to sell the Colt for?
I would like to sell my Sharps Carbine. I’d say it’s in fair condition. Any thoughts on it’s value and where I might sell it, are much appreciated.
Gene I have another weapon I was wanting your opinion on if you don’t care. I have a W. Richards percussion shotgun with a stamp that says Wells Fargo and a engraving that says guard and San Fran. I was wondering what you thought they weapon may be worth ? Thank you very much for your time!!
David, it’s not exactly my expertise, but I did do a google search and found many similar shotguns. Some were priced as low as $475 some were $4000……..I don’t believe your weapon to have much value unless there’s provenance that a historically famed officer of the law carried it.
I’m sure there are collectors that only collect Wells Fargo or Law officer weapons they would probably have a better idea of its value. See the attachment below it may be helpful.
Kind Regards, Gene West
Hi Gene West,
After a quick google search I came across your website. I have two civil war rifles and am trying to ascertain what they might be worth. I haven’t decided if I want to sell one or both of them, I attached a couple photos here, let me know if you are interested. I have more photos too. One was shortened, the other I do not believe was and is a double barrel. Trigger mechanisms work.
Below I’ve included an attachment that better describes the weapon you own. It’s not a Civil War weapon, but a “Half Stock Kentucky Rifle” classified as a sporting or target rifle. It’s value depends on the quality of craftsmanship.
Hope this helps, Regards Gene West
Dear Mr. West,
My name is William Black. I ran across your name when conducting a Google search. I’m trying to find in formation on a Civil War rifle. A fellow sport shooter fires this quite often at the range, he’s asking about where to find information on his rifle.
He specifically wants to know, if possible, which units in the Union Amy had his rifle in their inventory.
Saxonian Kingdom, Model 1850, caliber 14.64, manufactured Malherbe/Liege. Sold to the Union Army in 1862. The marks on the rifle read 3/194. I would be happy to send photos if you like. I appreciate your help, and remain,
CWO-3, USMC (Ret)
Sorry I didn’t respond earlier but I was out of town and didn’t have the means of communicating.
You’d have to send quality images of the weapon, any and all markings on the lockplate, barrel, butt plate, stock, cartouches and any other markings only then can possibly help.
Kind Regards, Gene West
Good Afternoon Gene,
I found your email address in an older article online. I’m hoping it’s still a good email.
I have built a small collection surrounding a civil war pistol I acquired several years ago. I privately purchased an 1858 Eli Whitney Navy Revolver that turned out to have some history. The pistol has the name “J.S.G Gay” and “Winchester KY” etched in several places on the pistol. The pistol is in good condition and the cylinder engravings are still faintly visible. The pistol is a Second Model, Second Type with matching serial numbers, 2255. The pistol is also operable. (photos attached)
After much research, I learned that this individual was Jonathan Stamper Gardner Gay (1831-1874) of Winchester Kentucky. Gay was a Confederate Captain in the 8th Kentucky Calvary and was part of Morgan’s raid into Ohio. This is where Captain Gay was captured and held as a prisoner of war until the end of the war. After his death he was buried in the Winchester cemetery.
In my research I was able to find copies of his muster roll, POW record, oath of allegiance he took upon release at the end of the war and a copy of a requisition he completed while at some point serving as a quartermaster. (photos attached) I also confirmed his POW status through the organization, Friends and Descendants of Johnson’s Island Civil War Prison. (photo attached) During my research I also met author Dan Williams who included my pistol in his book “The Whitney Navy Revolver 1857-1866”. (photos attached)
In 2017, during a random search to find more information, I acquired an original 1895 Kentucky Confederate Veterans Association Almanac, from a book dealer in Connecticut, which contains a photo and detailed bio of Captain Gay. The amazing thing is that this book had belonged to Captain Gays granddaughter, Margaret Cooper Gay, with her name and presentation on the flyleaf. (photos attached) I also have a reproduction of this book so as to not damage the original.
In closing, what do you believe this small collection of items should be valued at? I realize that Confederate items do fetch a premium to the right collector and I have seen what similar items sell for, I just want to get an idea in case I do decide to sell.
Thank you in advance.
I apologize for not responding sooner but I was out of town and didn’t have the means of communicating.
The revolver you own has incredible history and you’ve done a wonderful job amassing its provenance. Unfortunately I’m not able to help with valuation, I would be misleading you and I don’t want to do that.
I however can recommend others that can give you fair market valuation and may be willing to sell it for you if you’d like.
1. Jay Teague of http://historicantiquearms.com/ is located in Kentucky and may be the best dealer to understand value since he knows everything Kentucky.
2. Matt Hagans of http://www.museuminvestments.com/ is located in Kentucky as well, he can probably help as well.
I’ve done business with both of these dealers and I highly recommend there expertise.
Good luck, hope I was able to help and let me know how you make out.
Regards, Gene West
Gene whats good ? Found your email online. My father is rebuilding a civil war rifle. All the parts are original. Patina wasnt touched on the wood or barrel. However he’s rebuilding the firing mechanism which is all original. Based on the pics can you tell me the worth ? And is it confederate ?
Eric, I apologize for not responding sooner I’ve been extremely busy lately. It appears the weapon is a “Greene Breech Loading Rifle” from what I can tell from the trigger mechanism. You didn’t provide a good enough image of the barrel so I can’t say with certainty. Below I’ve included an attachment that gives a brief history and valuation.
Regards, Gene West
I am looking for a place I can sell this civil war musket issued to my wife’s great great uncle from the Indiana volunteers it is in great condition please let me know what site and about what I should ask for it thank you if you want to speak with me about it call Xxxxxxxxxx
It’s hard to tell without better resolution images but it appears to be a Prussian Model 1809 Musket Converted to Percussion……the Lock Plate should be marked Potsdam if that’s the case.
The leading expert in the country on imported weapons is Tim Prince, his website is http://www.collegepointarsenal.com. He’s an extremely busy man he tours with the PBS program Antiques Road Show. If you go to his website and reach out to him he may be able to help you.
Regards, Gene West
I obtained your email address
off some website while trying to figure out what my rifle is worth. Just inherited it and my grandpa has no clue. I don’t know anything about this kind of stuff either and was hoping you could point me in the right direction to see if it’s something worth getting appraised and insured or if it’s just wall decor. This thing has “1831” and “Harper’s Ferry” ensrcribed on the handle and belonged to a confederate relative of mine. Attached is the only picture I have at the moment. Is this enough information to determine a ball park value or could you suggest somewhere where I can get it assessed? I’m in the south TN/north GA so there are plenty of civil war museums and stores but don’t know where to take this thing.
Jacob, you’d have to provide better quality images of the weapon before I could give you any direction……when possible please provide pictures of the lockplate, barrel, stock, and any markings on the Musket……..use lots of lighting, (possibly sun light) so everything can be seen…
Hi I saw your article on the web and I have been researching a couple of weapons that i inherited and thought maybe you could help me figure out what i have. One of the rifles came with a letter from a master general of ordinance(provisional).basically states that this rifle came from the royal Nepalese army prior to 1898 and cost was 1500$ back in 1980. It along with another weapon ( long rifle) was both sealed in looked to be its original plastic still coated in a sticky grease. They both never been opened. They have sum crazy symbols which I cannot find anywere. Also came with a new stock for one and a bayonet. I’m interested in selling but would like to not sell myself short. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks rocky
Hello sir!! My name is Sarah Smith. I think I may have something you would be interested in! I am looking to sell this gun.
Its really awesome that you appreciate things like this!
I found your info while I was doing some research on it. I’m attaching some pictures..I may have to send them in several emails . I don’t think I can do them all on one email lol. If you need more pictures.. specific pics…whatever… I will get them to you!!
Thank you, Sarah S.
I have a 1847 springfield musketoon very good condition 1860sword and a bugle also an 1873springfield trapdoor iwill send pictures
James, I’d like to see images of the weapons you have, are you interested in selling them ?
I have a SW model 1 with engraving from Capt. Gregg to Julia Marcum.
All serial #’s on gun match
Help with value of civil war gun marked 1864 Springfield barrel is cracked /notches in barrel/ initials carved in barrel/ long gun with bayonet
Steve, please provide images of the Springfield and I will do my best to answer all questions.
I have a M1841 Mississippi rifle … pictures are here. Based on the pictures and the markings, what can you tell me about the rifle?
On the top of the butt of the rifle is the marking “G18”, what does that mean?
Also, it is a little confusing, I believe this is an 1841 model, it says 1851 under Harpers Ferry, it says 1855 on the top of the rifle, and based on the inspector (WW), he was inspecting .58 muskets between 1863-1865. What do all these dates mean?
It has a 33 inch barrel – which was standard on the M1841 but special on the M1855. Is this the M1841 or M1855?
What is the best way to sell the rifle – can you recommend dealers or auctioneers that would get the best value?
Lastly, what is the going price for this type of antique rifle?
Any insight that you can give me would be helpful – thank you in advance.
You have what I believe is a “Model 1841 U.S. Percussion Rifle” ………it is a late model variation with the adjustable long leaf rear sight. The G-18 on the butt plate ie the rack number, these were made at Harper’s Ferry through 1855.
I am not an appraiser so I won’t quote prices however I will include an attachment below from Flaydermans Guide of Antique Weapons that will help with value.
As far as selling it goes you can try to sell it on http://www.gunbroker.com yourself. There are many dealers that may be willing to sell it for you, I would look to bring it to a Civil War show in your area and bring it there………someone will make you a fair offer.
Hope this helps, Gene
I have a Remington New Model Pistol from 1848. Every part of this gun is attached and it comes with its holster too. It has what I think the initials N.J on the barrel and it was from New York U.S.A. I’m curious about the guns worth.
James, you’d have to provide quality images of the revolver. Then I can give you an estimate as to its value, I am not an appraiser only a collector and enthusiast.
Gene, I attached a picture of some items that a friend of mine says are from the civil war. She also has some letters from that era. She wants to sell them. I think they might be from that period as the metal buckle in the picture says “CSA”. I assume that means Confederate States of America? There’s also a leather pouch that those bullets came in. Can you let me know what they might be worth? Thanks.
The buckle is the only real value you have “if it’s authentic” . There are many fakes out there……you would have to provide many quality images of the buckle top and bottom for me to give you a value on it…..it’s very hard to do without handling it. The other items aren’t worth much, it’s all about the buckle.
I have a rifle and pistol from the Civil War, both are from the north and are in close to perfect shape. The rifle was made at the beginning of the war, and is perfect, no cracks or breaks, looks like it was not fired, as is the pistol. I would like to know the value of such a rarity.
I have a civil war rifle apparently never used. It appears to have never been used and was apparently made at the beginning of the war. It is not from the south..It has the bayonet and sleeve cover. I also have a pistol that also appears like it is new. My wife tells me it is a Starr Arms Co. New York, 29335 on one side and Starrs Patent Jan. 15, 1856. It is not a short barrel riffle, it is for the army, not the navy. Both the rifle and the pistol are like new. I have had it for 50 years, and know the Southern rifles are of greater value, but my weapons are in excellent condition.
I recently lost my grandfather, and while going through his estate I noticed someone had overlooked a gun. Turned out nobody wanted it because it was old and likely didn’t work anymore. I looked at it and saw it was printed with 1864 U.S. Watertown, with an eagle and shield emblem. My dad told me it was an antique musket that my grandpa won in a poker game (my grandpa also loved to tell stories so…) I am pretty sure it was a union gun since Watertown was in Massachusetts— But again I am not a history buff and I am sure people used what they could get.
In any event, I was wondering what your rough thoughts are on it? I am not looking to sell, rather I would like to insure it because it’s a piece of history. Who the gun belonged to is a mystery, but I gather they were pretty common. The ramrod (I think?) is missing, and one of the parts to secure it in. There is a horn that goes along with it, my dad is looking for it. He knows it is somewhere, he just has to find it, which he plans to do soon.
The stock is pretty scratched up, and the barrel looks like it has a stamp but I cannot make it out as it has faded— VP? And a 7 but it’s not facing in the right direction. The lock and trigger works fine, personally I would say it could shoot still, but again— not an expert. I would be happy to email pictures. Thank you for your time!
Terri, the Watertown Rifle Musket you have was made for the Union Army and purchased by the US Government. Charles B. Hoard owned the factory and received contracts from the Government to help the war effort.
About 12,800 muskets were manufactured and purchased by the US Government, unfortunately if the one you own is not in good condition it’s only worth about $850.00, however it is a nice piece of military and American history.
See attachment below for more information.
In fair to good condition (I have photos but not handy at the moment) I originally purchased through Dave Taylor the serial # falls in the middle of those listed assigned to Wilders Brigade (My GGrandfather was in the Ind 17th mounted Inf)
Mechanism to load weapon from back of stock is workable)
Interested in selling most of my antique guns (trying to retire/downsize)
Looking for a starting point to sell (I believe I Paid $2,600 over 10 years ago?)
Also places that I can list to sell
Sorry it’s taken so long to reply, however I was out of town for the past few weeks.
Could you provide quality images of the Spencer and any other CW weapons you have. I may be interested but have to see images first.
I have a civil war pistol that I am thinking of selling.. I have been doing some research and as you stated, prices are across the board on it.. I have taken a few pics.. all the numbers match. 3754, all the WW markings are there but the one on the barrel only 1 of the W’s is clear. I am pretty sure it was from my grandmothers side of the family as I have a picture of her Uncle missing an arm that states it was lost in the war. Brooks is the last name from Indiana. I also have a bayonet and a sword bayonet. I live in AZ but acquired these items upon my fathers death in 2010. I had only seen the sword and bayonet as a child. I almost threw the gun away as my father had hidden it in a box wrapped in one of my grandmothers linen tablecloths under old Christmas lights! I also have some old rifles none are in very good shape. Do you know anyone who could appraise these items for me?
Thank you in advance,
The US bayonet and scabbard you have is post CW and worth about $100-150, the Saber bayonet you have is not American I believe it to be Belgium I cannot estimate price since this is not my expertise.
The revolver you have is a CS Pettengill Army Model Revolver. It is a .44 caliber 6 shot, double action hammer less type frame. The U.S Ordinance Dept ordered 5000 at the outbreak of hostilities in 1861 however changed there order to 2000 revolvers after the weapon failed firing trials.
Your weapon is in the 3700 serial number range which leads me to believe it was purchased post war at a discounted price (which was not uncommon for obsolete weapons after the war).
Unfortunately your revolver is not in very good condition, if it were it would be worth between $1450 – 4500 but it’s my opinion that your revolver is worth at best $1000…..the big problem is the wood grips are extremely damaged and may not be original to the weapon…..if it were a Colt or a Remington you could purchase inexpensive original replacements but it would be extremely difficult to replace wood grips for your Pettengill Revolver.
I’ve included an attachment below.
I found your website while trying to learn more about a relic condition 1860 Colt Army I recently aquired. I am not a collector, and honestly dont know anything about how to obtain the value of this gun. Ive checked the serial on colts website and know it was manufactured in 1862. But thats the extent of my knowledge. I also do know that its condition is not great. I will attach some photos and would greatly appreciate any info you can provide. Thank you in advance.
Unfortunately your Colt is in poor condition……at one time someone nickel plated the revolver (most has worn off) this would not have been original to the weapon, the wood grips are gone, as well as the cylinder. What remains is parts, it’s my opinion it’s worth a couple hundred dollars to someone restoring a revolver.
Thank you for the offer to look at photos of the gun that my father has. I was able to get with him today to get images of the gun and markings. Instead of sending individual photos, I created an online album that you can access through this link: https://photos.app.goo.gl/go28MKewopZoxSb97
We have family history that has been passed down with the gun stating that our ancestor (PFC. G.E. Ware) owned the gun prior to the Civil War and carried it with him in Crenshaw’s Battery. We have been told it is a 58 caliber goose gun. The gun continued being used as a hunting gun after the war, but at some point was set aside and neglected. Some of the markings may be clearer once it has been cleaned, but we are unsure how to do so without causing more damage. We also know that it was originally a flintlock, but was converted to percussion cap, although we are not sure when. This information is all that we have been able to find out from living relatives, but we are looking through family records for anything else we can find. If there is anything more you can tell us about it, we would be very grateful. We would also be happy to take photos from different angles if needed, or answer any questions that we are able.
Full Length: 61.25″ (family notes list it as a 62″ gun)
Barrel Length: 45.75″
Thank you for being willing to look at this for us,
Unfortunately I can’t help much with information on your weapon.
What I can tell you is it’s definitely European based on the proof marks on the barrel, it was probably made sometime between 1820 – 1850. It was originally made as a hunting or sporting Musket and was originally flintlock and converted to percussion cap.
If it were used in the War Between The States it would have been very early 1861-1862. These were considered obsolete weapons soon after the start of hostilities, it would not stand up to the rigors of war. It would not be an equal to the advances that were being made in weaponry at the time.
Time has not been kind to the Musket, it’s in extremely rough shape. Condition is everything when collecting and I don’t believe it to have much value. But since it’s been in the family so long it’s value is more personal then monetary.
Sorry I couldn’t help more, Kind Regards Gene West
I HAVE A CIVIL WAR PISTOL, CONVERTED FROM A FLINTLOCK WITH “C.S. ARMOURY” STAMPED ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE LOCK. WOULD YOU HAVE ANY INFO THIS ARMORY, IE, LIKE ITS LOCATION DURING THE CIVIL WAR, ITS MAIN FUNCTION/PURPOSE, AND WHICH ARMY DID IT SERVE~~~~NORTH OR SOUTH?
Here are the photos that you requested. Please let me know if you need any additional information.
I know of two other Remington Rifles in much better condition then yours for less then $1800.00. Chances are there’s a 10% discount in the asking price……which means that I can buy a Remington Rifle for about $1600.00 pretty much anytime.
One of the big problems that I have with the Remington is it was never used in the Civil War, it was issued late in the war and never saw service, that’s why there are so many existing examples in excellent condition……I only collect war time weapons, but if one we’re available for a great price I would consider adding it to my collection.
Hope you understand, Gene West
I have a question , and I hope you can help me. I have a Ketland and company civil war rifle that has been in my family for centuries . This was owned by a relative of mine and passed down to the oldest son in every generation. Can you tell me it’s approximate value? I am including pictures – any help you can give would be greatly appreciated !
The Ketland percussion musket you have was originally a flintlock musket that was converted to percussion cap, probably around 1850. The barrel has a London makers mark on it, but the barrel has Liege proof mark on it suggesting it was made in Belgium.
This type of musket would not have been used in the War Between the States, it would have been used as a sporting musket for hunting.
The forward portion of the stock has been cut down which hurts it value. I’d guess it’s worth between $800 – $1200.
I have a U.S. Whitney-ville 1864 musket – .58 cal, with VP stamped on the plate next to the hammer. I am wondering about it’s value and who might be interested in buying it. It is in pristine condition.
I’ve included an attachment below from Flaydermans Guide to Antique American Weapons, it’s insightful about the details and estimated value of your Rifle Musket. I wood say yours is slightly better then good condition. Unfortunately there’s not much rifling left in the barrel suggesting it was used a lot as a shotgun.
If you know of a Civil War show near you I’m certain one of the dealers would make you a fair offer, understand it won’t be for the full resale value since they have to sell it and make a profit. Or you could list it on http://www.gunbrokers.com .
I was hoping you could help out a little on this revolver which looks to be either a bunch of parts put together or an early fake. It is a .44 caliber and I have all the dyes. There are no numbers anywhere or markings, the trigger guard is also not correct so I wonder if there’s a reason. I was told that the rebels used to take parts and make guns out of it but there is nothing from that era that I could identify with that trigger guard. Do you have any ideas on this gun?
Ps if you would like to see pictures of the tools and black powder bags I can send those.
Unfortunately I’m limited in providing more information without handling the revolver. From what I can see in the images you’ve provided I believe you have a Remington New Model Army Revolver.
The trigger guard has been changed to what looks like is a Colt Dragoon Revolver but that’s only a best guess and the wooden grips look to be new replacements. Overall the revolver seems to be in rough shape. I don’t have an explanation as to why there are no markings on the frame, maybe it’s a modern revolver that someone has aged at some time……hard to say without close examination.
Sorry I couldn’t help more, Gene West
Hi Gene….Ran across your blog and info center as I was looking for information on long rifle I bought 45 years ago. It’s a Spiller and Burr rifle, not their revolver, but has the same mechanism that the revolver. It has the Spiller and Burr, Va engraving on the barrel but it also has a engraved brass plate on the stock which says, ” Presented to Lieut. Col. John W.Mallet by the grateful citizens of Macon “. Having researched John Mallet he was involved with he CSA and has quite a historic background being an Irish chemist and by 1865 became lieutenant colonel and then superintendent of the ordnance laboratories of the Southern States. He was based in Macon. I have seen that some of those S & B revolvers do seem to fetch a pretty good price but isn’t been able to locate any rifles by Spiller and Burr. Would you happen to have any information about a piece like this ? I do have photos if you would like to see them. The rifle is in very good shape. Thanks in advance for any info.
I would be extremely interested in seeing images of the S&B Musket Rifle you have. If you could provide images of the lock plate, barrel, trigger mechanism, Butt plate, stock and the engraved brass plate…….if I can’t help you I will recommend others that can.
Kind Regards, Gene West&
My husband has aRemington black powder cap and ball rifle from the early 1860s. I don’t know whether it is Union or Confederate. It is in excellent condition. We are moving to a retirement home and he wants to sell it. Can you give us any estimate of its value?
Please provide quality images of the weapon and I will do my best to answer any questions you have.
I read your article on value of CW items. I happen to have a civil war pistol, I wanted to sell at some point. It’s in good shape. It belonged to my Great, Great grandfather. He was in Jeb Stewarts Calvary. It’s a standard Colt 45. Any ideas?
thank you ,
It’s very hard to estimate values without handling the weapon, however if you send quality images of the revolver I will try to answer whatever questions you have.
Good Morning Gene,
Got your name on the internet as one knowledgeable about Civil War weapons and I need help in evaluating worth. These weapons are “war” used by ancestors that resided in Charleston S.C. with a last name of Eason. Weapon 1 identified by the Colt Museum as a Colt Powder and Ball Navy Belt Pistol Model 1851, Serial 99002,36 Caliber. It is complete with a Storage Box; Powder Horn, Shot Mold and some shot and caps. When I discovered the pistol in my fathers “stuff” it was still loaded. I have since had a Smith correct that issue. My grandmother was a Eason born and raised in Charleston, but that is all the history I possess. Weapon 2 is a 44 Caliber RF Henry Carbine with brass receiver Serial 20623 Patent 10/10/1860. This weapon was a participant in the war but still has nice wood, clean barrel and what seems an original leather shoulder strap. Any thoughts about value and recommended sale is appreciated.
It’s next to impossible to give a valuation on a weapon without seeing, handling and understanding its provenance. I am a CW weapons enthusiast and not an appraiser, however I can help with giving an estimate as to the value of your weapons.
There are certain CW weapons that I am more familiar with (because I have handled and owned many) unfortunately not the ones you own. But I will forward you details about your weapons from “Flaydermans Guide to Antique American Firearms” which is considered by many to be the leading source of valuation of Antique weapons.
Please see the attachment below.
I do have a few thoughts about the information you’ve provided. I don’t believe you have a Henry Carbine, I believe it to be a Winchester Model 1866 Rifle based on the serial number you’ve provided…..please see the attachment below. Assuming it is a Winchester it is not a CW era weapon……however it still has very good value, but remember it’s all about condition.
There are many reputable & qualified dealers I will recommend that may be interested in selling your weapons.
1. Tim Prince, https://collegehillarsenal.com/index.php?route=common/home Tim is an appraiser for the Antique Road Show and has co-written many of books about Antique Weapons.
2. Jay Teague, http://www.historicantiquearms.com/ Jay only sells high quality weapons and is great to do business with.
3. Rick Burton, https://ccrelics.com/ Rick is also a good option for selling the weapons you have.
Of course there’s many others I could recommend but I think this is a good starting point for you. Hope I was able to help answer the questions you have and if there’s anything I missed feel free to asked.
Kind Regards , Gene West
Hoping this reaches you versus a spam bucket. Your website is incredible.
Yes, I am bothering you and hoping for a pointer perhaps to someone that could help us identify a percussion rifle that we have. This was found by my father in the rafters of a farmhouse he purchased in Reading, Vermont. I have been trying to find someone that could help identify what it actually is and have not had any luck in this area. I have attached one photo to this email but certainly can send several showing the few stampings on the weapon. I did look on your website but perhaps missed the matching marks.
When my father was alive he took it to someone that thought it may be from a group of 200 that came from France, but was not sure and we were never clear if that could even be correct. The story was that Lincoln sent someone to France to find weapons for the North.
Any thoughts or comments greatly appreciated.
Your not bothering me at all, I enjoy seeing weapons I’ve never seen before and I’m always thrilled when someone takes an interest in them.
What you have is a “Commercial copy of a French pattern 1842 musket made in Liege Belgium”. There were approximately 147,000 of these muskets imported by the U.S. Government during the “The War between the States”. They may have been used by the Federals early in the war however most men would have preferred the U.S. made Springfield Musket Rifle or the British Enfield if given the chose.
I’ve included a link below from the book “Confederate Odyssey”, the authors brief description of your weapon articulates the weapon better then I ever could. Hope I was able to help. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Regards, Gene West
I have no idea how you did that so fast. I certainly contacted the correct person. Several folks around here have looked at the weapon and had no clue. I found the book Confederate Odyssey online and am purchasing a copy for documentation. Sounds like with 147,000 of these it is not that rare, but in any case we now know what it actually is. I hope to eventually establish its worth, but for now just identifying it is outstanding. Though not in the best shape, it actually looks like it may be in better shape than the one shown in the book. It hung for years over my parents fireplace and is now stored in my gun safe until I come up with a better display plan to keep it safe from humidity and guests that always want to handle it.
Thank you so much,
Going thru some of my father’s old guns that my granddad bought for him as a kid growing up. We’ve got several Springfields ones a trap gun, a Richmond c.s., an E. whitney, Harper ferry, a sharp and a spencer. Their all in the fair to good condition with 2 or 3 Springfields in the poor condition. Got some leveler action guns as well. Couple we’d probably like to get reconditioned and priced. We live in northeastern North Carolina looking for a recommendation of someone in NC or VA.
Looks time you have some very nice examples of early American weapons. If not for the circumstances with the virus I would be extremely interest in making you an offer, however the circumstances don’t allow that currently.
I would recommend you reach out to Rick Burton of https://ccrelics.com/ he is located in North Carolina and is one of the most prominent CW dealers in the country. Good luck and stay safe in these uncertain times.
Regards, Gene West
Hi- I am curious about an item I inherited from my dad. He was a history buff. I have .69 Belgian Arms in good condition. No serial number, noted by several with more knowledge that it was almost certainly Confederate issued.
I am a bit of a general history nerd and a teacher, but bringing it to school is a no….curious about it’s value range. Understanding you’d need to see it to pin down. Ballpark range for something like this?
Not really certain on the value of the weapon you have since it’s not my expertise. My opinion is that it is not a Confederate purchased weapon…..more then likely a Federal purchased weapon.
The weapon was recently sold by “The Union Boy” relic and CW store in Gettysburg Pa. you may want to reach out to them and ask the questions you’d like answered. Below I’ve included there description of your weapon. Hope this helps.
Regards Gene West
Civil War .69 Caliber Musket – Inventory Number: RIF 009
This large caliber rifled Belgian musket has excellent cartouches, inspector, and sub-inspector marks. The musket is rifled and used the large size, .69 caliber minie balls. The buttplate is iron and the ramrod is trumpet head shaped. The musket has three bands secured by springs, the forward band serves as a sight, and there are two strap hooks affixed to the bands. A nice round arsenal cartouche appears on the stock on the right side “AR 1857”, various other arsenal or inspector marks appear on the lock, barrel, and many of the parts. The lockplate is marked, “S23” beneath a crown. Nice honest example.
The Piedmontese model 1844/60 was the percussion musket to be adopted by the Kingdom of Piedmont-Sardinia. Although it retained an older form of a flint lockplate, the weapon was designed as a percussion musket. In 1860 the barrel was rifled with four grooves to use a Minie type projectile. These particular muskets were manufactured at the State Arsenal at Torino, Italy and in Liege, Belgium.
The weapons imported by the Federal government were produced in Liege by three firms. The arms manufactured by August Francotte Company bear the cypher on the lockplate, AF surmounted by A crown. There is also a circular cartouche located on the right side of the stock marked A. Francotte-Liege.
Essentially, this weapon is a copy of the French model 1822 Infantry Musket with two distinctive features, A small knob on the hammer spur and a rear sight screwed into the breech. In 1862 8,176 of this model were imported into the U.S at the cost of $11.51 per musket.
I share a common interest with you in the collection of Civil War weapons and artifacts. Though my collection is nowhere near what yours is, I sadly need to part with them. I am going through a rather nasty divorce, and its only because my wife has no idea of their value that she has not gone after them yet. I only have three long rifles, a Remington Maynard, and (2) Tower Enfields, all in terrific shape. I have several sabers, mostly 1840 models with that are in not so great of shape handle wise. Obviously, my painful question is what would be the best way to go about selling these? Ive owned them about 15-20 years and I didn’t think I would ever part with them. Im not sure where you are located, but if you are too far away geographically, could you recommend someone closer to me. I have included a picture, and I apologize upfront, the picture was of a deer mount, the rifles just happened to be in the background.
Could you provide better images of the weapons ? Closeups of the lockplates and any other markings on the muskets needed. I’m located in Florida, outside of the Sarasota area.
Hello, I’m trying to obtain an estimate of value for my civil war revolver, Pat No. 2938, Sept 10, 1850. All serial numbers (14705) match.
Your reply is appreciated.
I’m including an attachment below that will give you more details then I can in my email. I believe your Colt to be a “Colt Model 1860 Army Revolver, standard round cylinder” the values start at $950 and up.
Unfortunately your revolver has been repaired on the trigger guard as well as the bottom area on the wood grip and there may be other repairs I’m not seeing. This effects the price tremendously…….I’m not an appraiser so I won’t give a value however with the attachment below you should be able to get a good understanding of its value…..but you must take into account the repairs.
Regards, Gene West
I have a friend that has a Civil war rifle with history identifying ownership papers dating to 1862-1863 including the soldiers name, which is a great grandfather. The associated papers include one document signed by Abraham Lincoln. I am including with this note several pictures of the item. We are attempting to find out the manufactures name and type of rifle that it is and if it has a resale value. She is desiring to dispose of this rile and needs some advice. Can, will you help? If so, please suggest a course of action. I await a response. Thank you
The weapon you’ve provided images of is not a military musket. This would be a musket that a hunter may have used and yes there’s a slim possibility it may have been used early war, but it’s a slim possibility at best.
I would be interested in seeing the document signed by A. Lincoln. Without better quality images of the weapon of all the markings on it it’s impossible for me to identify the maker.
Please provide closeup pictures and I will do my best to answer all questions you have.
Regards, Gene West
Attached are some photos of an 1832 Springfield musket that’s been in my wife’s family for many years. We are trying to determine a value for a possible sale. We don’t know if it’s Union or Confederate (or how to tell) and we don’t know where to advertise/market it for sale.
Can you help?
Thank you, Steve
believe what you have is a Model 1816 U.S. Musket Type III. Originally it started out as a flintlock but was converted to percussion cap at sometime. Unfortunately it’s not worth so much money as a percussion musket. Very few surviving flintlock examples exist which is reflected in its value…….it may have been used in the early portion of the CW by either Northern or Southern troops. More then likely Union troops but with close inspection of the musket it may show signs of Southern use.
Without physically inspecting the musket it’s impossible to say much more. Below I’m including an attachment that will help you understand values.
Regards, Gene West
I came across your blog and was interested to know if you can give me information on a couple pieces that i have that family hand me downs. In theory they would have come from a Wisconsin regiment but possible that family relocated there after the war. I attached a few photos… not looking to sell or anything like that just interested in knowing more about them. Thanks ahead of time!!!
The sword is a “Non Regulation Union field and Staff sword” German import made for the American market. It’s a relatively common sword, unfortunately yours has surface rust on the knuckle guard and scabbard. However it does have acid etching on the blade which is desirable.
The shotgun is CW period, however I don’t believe to to have been used in the War Between the States.
If you got your Spencer a year or so ago and just take a look at the auction houses and what they’re going for. I was floored. Glad I had a family one. I have other handguns an carbines. I am irritated that people are WAY overpaying for Joslyn carbines. Like double value and they will never recoup. The one I’d actually like to get a reasonable price on which is impossible. Oh well.
I was wondering if you could confirm the value of a .32 caliber rim fire 7 shot pistol.
The date on it is sept 18, 1860.
We have this gun in a case that my father bought in 2002.
Attached, please find images of the gun.
Thank you, Cheryl
Cheryl, Below see the attachment I’ve included, it can explain more to you then I could.
Regards, Gene West
I have a 1827 Harper Ferry gun… hoping to find out the value, please and thank you. How do I get pics to you?? Thanks again!!